A little over a year ago my girlfriend found a place for us to live for our two month “compatibility” visit before my permanent move 4 months later. It was a large one-room place in one of 26 16-storey buildings called Popular Condominiums. Located 30 minutes north of the farang center of the universe it is really quite a unique, interesting and very affordable place to live. It's an area called Muang Tong Thani which is in Nonthaburi, just next to the northern border of Bangkok and about 10 km west of Don Meuang Airport.
Big
wide view of front of complex.
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View of
main entrance road to the complex.
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Rooms: Located in the 16-storey buildings are both single and one bedroom units. The single room units are 28 square meters and one bedroom units about 37 square meters. There are a total of 660 units in each building on the 15 floors of rooms. That there are a lot of rooms, if the units were all occupied would be quite a load of people here. Interestingly they are not all occupied and I am guessing that in my building alone there are somewhere between 30 & 50% unoccupied and just sitting vacant. Occupancy rates vary with the most occupied buildings (C-4 & C-5) near the center main intersection with the incoming road to the complex. As you get farther away from this center, the occupancy rate goes down substantially. There has recently been an effort by the Bangkok Land Company that owns many of the vacant units to market the vacant units by refurbishing them, to a modern standard (with AC) with all the furnishings to match. They are nice with the most expensive of the one bedroom units (above the 8th floor and facing outside) goes for about 590,000 baht.
Inside
courtyard of building.
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Not many Thais
care about mail at this “secure” mailbox area.
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Many empty rooms
facing courtyard.
Rental Rooms: From 400 - 500 baht per night gets you a
furnished 28 square meter room with kitchen sink and bathroom. There are
many nightly, weekly or monthly rentals available here. Trick is to ask
around and surely you will find people who will tell you about many
available. Monthly rentals range from 3,000 - 4,000 baht a month.Elevators: Two each are located in every corner of the building with diagonal elevators going to even floors and the other set diagonally go to the odd number floors. We are on the 13th floor so have to enter the building and walk across the courtyard to get the elevator that goes to our floor. Interesting also is the lack of working elevators. There is usually always one working on each corner but somehow the second one only works by the main entrance with only one elevator working on the other corners. Last month they just got the 2nd elevator next to the one we use working. It had been out of service for over 10 years. If these units were fully occupied there would be a severe crunch of people trying to get up and down the floors.
Gosh, new outside
buttons and panel inside the elevators just repaired.
Transportation: One does not need a car or
motorcycle with the options we have here. Motorcycle taxis outside many
main entry doors and taxis cruising the main roads of the complex. Bus
#166 starts it journey to Pakred and Victory Monument and back—all from the
front of the complex. A minibus terminal 200 meters away will take you
just about anywhere north and to the center of BKK. The most popular
destinations are probably to Victory Monument (25 baht) and MoChit
skytrain / subway (via the IMPACT bus 30 baht).
A.C. Bus 166
to PakRed and Victory Monument.
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Minibuses
to everywhere.
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Food Court.
Stores: Tesco Express, Watson's, 7 Elevens
everywhere and a Tops market are located in the main shopping area. Even a
fresh market is about 100 m west of the covered food court. Tesco-Lotus, Big
C & Makro are very close and a motorcycle or car taxi ride to Chang Wattana Road.
Carrefour is near Pakkred and you can get there on the 166 bus. Even a new
Central Department Store shopping mall on Chang Wattana will be opening by
the end of the year (2008) whuch is again available on the 166 bus just
before you get to Carrefour. A farang favorite, Villa Market is located on
the Grand Canal not too far east of the Chang Wattana intersection. There
is even a Thai outdoor market on the 3rd and 1st Sunday of the
month. The market takes up all the space around two of the very large
office buildings next to the shopping area and even more space that is not
occupied inside the main shopping area. It is a very Thai market with lots
of affordable items and, frankly, incredible prices.
Fresh
market.
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Main
entrance to complex.
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Banks: There are branches of three banks here with the main headquarters of one bank soon to occupy one of the very large office buildings next to my unit. Siam Commercial Bank has ATMs at the main entrance of each building.
Entertainment: Aside from the best place to people watch on the corner of the food court, night market and C4 & C5 there are a few small bars located in the stalls on the bottom floors of the buildings. Karaoke can be had at two locations in Mueang Tong (closer to the Lakes Condos) and some girlie bars on Chang Wattana road across the street from the Big C. Oh, yes and there is a Major Cineplex movie theater on Chang Wattana road between the Big C and Tesco Lotus.
IMPACT: The second largest exhibition complex in South East Asia is located immediately next door, just a short walk away. All kinds of trade and consumer shows take place there along with a large arena where they have concerts and athletic events. Check out Impact.com for more information on this complex. Interestingly the Challenger Hall (across the street from the arena) is the largest exhibition hall without supporting beams for the roof—NO poles or posts. Some of the shows are quite interesting and give you something to do in your off time.
Impact Arena and exhibition complex just in back of fresh market.
Towards the end of our “compatibility” visit I
purchased a one bedroom unit and moved here four months later. It’s a very
affordable place to live and with so many convenient stores here, good
transportation there is no need to spend more just to be near the center of
the action downtown. Living here leaves me the spare coins to travel to
other areas and enjoy the other wonderful parts of this beautiful country.
Stickman's thoughts:
One of the many uncompleted weekly column
opening pieces I am sitting on is about "alternative neighbourhoods" in
Bangkok, featuring those areas you seldom find foreigners, or are less
popular with foreigners. This area was
one I was going to highlight but I think I can now cross it off the list as
you have covered it really well!
I agree with pretty much everything you
say about the area. It's very cheap and affordable and if you are
willing to go Thai style on many things, particularly food, then you could
do fine out there. The condos are rather small
though and that would be the toughest obstacle to overcome, I reckon.
I would say however that it is NOT a
good area to live if you plan to spend much time in the farang ghetto i.e. Sukhumvit or
Silom areas. While you can reach downtown
affordably in a minivan, it's quite a hike time-wise - and if it rains, you're in for
a long journey.
Ingeniøren:
Dette er området hvor jeg befinner meg. Og det er alt man trenger bare steinkast unna .
Jeg bruker ca 200 baht til nærmeste IT senter(Tur/retur). For å komme til matsenter brukes jeg max 50 baht i Taxi.
Grunn til at jeg mener at dette er et greit sted. Er at kostnadsivået er meget greit.
Og jeg har ikke tenkt "å bo meg i hjel i et hus som koster skjorta".
Min plan med hele oppholdet i Thailand er at jeg skal skifte miljø ofte.
Da ved at jeg tar turer rundt i Thailand.Og har et utgangspunkt som er helt greit.
Ja jeg kunne gjort som mange turister og vært med havet hele tiden. Men jeg kan med denne løsningen være fri til å sette meg i Taxi og reise til Pattaya,Puket eller dra nord i landet.
Ved å ha en dyr bolig får man mindre muligheter.
Faktisk er en meget bra leilighet rett under meg til salgs nå for 360 000 baht.
Denne er ny oppusset.
Hva bruker man hvis man er på hotell?
1500 - 2500 baht pr døgn.
1500 x 30 dager x 12 mnd= 540 000 baht.
Derfor er dette min "økonomiske løsning". Jeg har modenisert leiligheten til vestlig standard. Men varmvann og kabeltv.
Jeg har tilkobling til bredbånd, slik at jeg kan holde kontakt med hjemlandet.
Når jeg da kjeder meg går jeg bare ned på fortauet og får en taxi. Deretter tar jeg hyggelige turer rundt i Bangkok. Spiser mat på kafe eller flotte ute resturanter.
Ofte tar jeg med meg badebuksen og spiser middag etter en avslappet dykkert i nærmeste basseng.
Jeg trenger derfor ikke et svært hus i Thailand. Og hvis man ønsker noe annet er det en grei løsning å ligge på hotell en weekend.
Ett hotell som jeg synes er hyggelig er dette.
http://www.radisson.com/bangkok-hotel-th-10110/thabakk
Hvor jeg kan få lunsj ved basseng kanten og kose meg i varmt vann og se utover Bangkok.
Bassenget er et tak basseng.
På baksiden av hotellet ligger en meget bra uteplass, hvor man får meget gode fiskeretter
Det er også en bar hvor man kan sitte i bassenget og få drinker. Alt lett tilgjengelig. På kvelden er bassenget opplyst med blått lys og og det er veldig hyggelig.
Hvis man ikke er for stor forlangende kan man ha det meget greit.
Jeg ønsker med dette å ha et mer meningsfylt liv. Da med "opplevelser" i sentrum.
Jeg bruker mine penger på å få lærdom. Oppleve nye ting hele tiden. Og se ting som jeg bare kunne drømme om i Norge.
Alt basert på en grei liten leilighet i Thailand.
Frister ikke en weekend tur til Singapore ? Vel da reiser jeg neste helg :-) Dette er min tanke på hvordan livet burde være.
Ingeniøren:
Dette er området hvor jeg befinner meg. Og det er alt man trenger bare steinkast unna .
Jeg bruker ca 200 baht til nærmeste IT senter(Tur/retur). For å komme til matsenter brukes jeg max 50 baht i Taxi.
Grunn til at jeg mener at dette er et greit sted. Er at kostnadsivået er meget greit.
Og jeg har ikke tenkt "å bo meg i hjel i et hus som koster skjorta".
Min plan med hele oppholdet i Thailand er at jeg skal skifte miljø ofte.
Da ved at jeg tar turer rundt i Thailand.Og har et utgangspunkt som er helt greit.
Ja jeg kunne gjort som mange turister og vært med havet hele tiden. Men jeg kan med denne løsningen være fri til å sette meg i Taxi og reise til Pattaya,Puket eller dra nord i landet.
Ved å ha en dyr bolig får man mindre muligheter.
Faktisk er en meget bra leilighet rett under meg til salgs nå for 360 000 baht.
Denne er ny oppusset.
Hva bruker man hvis man er på hotell?
1500 - 2500 baht pr døgn.
1500 x 30 dager x 12 mnd= 540 000 baht.
Derfor er dette min "økonomiske løsning". Jeg har modenisert leiligheten til vestlig standard. Men varmvann og kabeltv.
Jeg har tilkobling til bredbånd, slik at jeg kan holde kontakt med hjemlandet.
Når jeg da kjeder meg går jeg bare ned på fortauet og får en taxi. Deretter tar jeg hyggelige turer rundt i Bangkok. Spiser mat på kafe eller flotte ute resturanter.
Ofte tar jeg med meg badebuksen og spiser middag etter en avslappet dykkert i nærmeste basseng.
Jeg trenger derfor ikke et svært hus i Thailand. Og hvis man ønsker noe annet er det en grei løsning å ligge på hotell en weekend.
Ett hotell som jeg synes er hyggelig er dette.
http://www.radisson.com/bangkok-hotel-th-10110/thabakk
Hvor jeg kan få lunsj ved basseng kanten og kose meg i varmt vann og se utover Bangkok.
Bassenget er et tak basseng.
På baksiden av hotellet ligger en meget bra uteplass, hvor man får meget gode fiskeretter
Det er også en bar hvor man kan sitte i bassenget og få drinker. Alt lett tilgjengelig. På kvelden er bassenget opplyst med blått lys og og det er veldig hyggelig.
Hvis man ikke er for stor forlangende kan man ha det meget greit.
Jeg ønsker med dette å ha et mer meningsfylt liv. Da med "opplevelser" i sentrum.
Jeg bruker mine penger på å få lærdom. Oppleve nye ting hele tiden. Og se ting som jeg bare kunne drømme om i Norge.
Alt basert på en grei liten leilighet i Thailand.
Frister ikke en weekend tur til Singapore ? Vel da reiser jeg neste helg :-) Dette er min tanke på hvordan livet burde være.
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